Sunday, April 12, 2009

A Discussion on SF "Dangai Banjare" at IndianSF Group Part-2

Dr. Arvind Mishra
Dear Zeashan,
Would you like to make some amendments in original story in the light of discussions held so far ? Any insight ?

Swapnil Arnie
But, I would repeat. We appreciate ZeesHan's ability to create stories at such a fast pace. I wish to see more from his pen soon :-)

Tinkoo
Inline...
Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:
{Nothing happens without the notice of authorities. If they see a movement they will peep in and cite all the reasons why you can't do it. Which in other language means bribe us and carry on. Colonies were not built without notice, they were built knowing that there is no scope for 'bribery' in such cases or in case of builders, they get their share and allow construction. I live in Delhi and I know that. You see small LPG refilling shops in some areas? They did not mushroomed before authorities were indifferent, they came up because they give 500 Rs per day to the policemen. Any big movement means big money. So, they will intervene.}

Can you guess who was paid bribes when Pakistan occupied Kargil? It took our military months (or was it years?) to notice that they'd annexed Indian territory & we had to go to war!

An unknown plane enters India from west, travels half way through the country's interior, delivers arms to terrorists in Purulia, travels other half & exits through east! Without authorities knowledge!

Things like illegal colonies coming up on bribes are common in Bombay too, but "authorities" far too often are blind too. Or just plain incompetent.

{Factory is a term which I would use for anykind of production. Also it is beyond my understanding to create such powerful Lasers, and such technology to change DNA without much infrastructure. But, may be it is possible. It's India anything is possible :-)....
or C, where did the cage come from? Could the scientist create laser cage anywhere? What kind of emmence technology would be used then?}

This is science fiction, dear. There are any number of examples where the job of Zeashan's big lab is accomplished by a tiny hand-held gadget, or sometimes even "by thought".
There is a very lovely piece of humor by L Sprague de Camp - "Blue Giraffe". DNA change machine is in a little room in South Africa, its door is left open. Any animal, including humans, that crosses in front of its door gets a genetic mutation!
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Zeashan Zaidi
Arvind Ji,
After a brilliant discussion among Tinkoo Ji, Reema Ji and Swapnil Ji, I reached to the conclusion that there is no need of any amendment in the story.
Reema Ji, you explained the points raised by Swapnil in the same way as I thought when was writing the story. e.g I created a picture of irresponsible authorities in the second scene.

Swapnil Arnie
{Can you guess who was paid bribes when Pakistan occupied Kargil? It took our military months (or was it years?) to notice that they'd annexed Indian territory & we had to go to war!
An unknown plane enters India from west, travels half way through the country's interior, delivers arms to terrorists in Purulia, travels other half & exits through east! Without authorities knowledge!
Things like illegal colonies coming up on bribes are common in Bombay too, but "authorities" far too often are blind too. Or just plain incompetent.}
Debatable.
{This is science fiction, dear. There are any number of examples where the job of Zeashan's big lab is accomplished by a tiny hand-held gadget, or sometimes even "by thought".}
By the way why did they not electrocuted each other by touching? There is no end to such questions. And explanations. I would have loved if the explanations came from Zeeshan, the creator himself. I wanted to hear his logic, coz he created it.
Yes, it is science fiction, but some logic and feasibility is also needed. A good fiction should be based on some realistic possibilities. A fiction writers has to be even more careful as he is controlling events, people's action, behaviour and much more. There has to be great logic behind everything. A tiny hand-held is OK, in whose hands is what matters. But, if you suggest some logics can be put aside then I am OK with it too.
Zeeshan I hope you are not minding this discussion. It has less to do with your story and more to do with my understanding of fiction.
Excellent Zeeshan. Thanks Reema Ji and Tinkoo. I will look forward to similar kind of stories from Zeehan in future too. I am tempted to translate it and share with the international community to give them and idea of our current SF what do you suggest Reema ji and Tinkoo? Should I share it?